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>>102004
1. Muslims have no culture, all culture is forbidden to them by Islam.
2. There is not a single church in Saudi Arabia. For converting from Islam, for example, to Christianity, they execute by death.
3. There are no miracles in Islam
4. Islam believes that the God and the Devil are the same - Allah.
5. Allah wanted me to hate Islam, and I do it with pleasure.

>>102004
Surah 3:28 (Al-Imran):
"Let the believers (Muslims) not take the unbelievers as helpers instead of the believers. And whoever does that has nothing to do with Allah."

Surah 5:51: "O believers (Muslims)! Do not take Jews and Christians as friends..."

The Koran explicitly allows contacts with adherents of a different religions:
Marriages with "people of the Book" are allowed (with female Christians/with female Jews — Surah 5:5). because all the descendants of this marriage shall be Muslims, which shall increase the number of Muslims.

>>104104
here is a more accurate translation:
Surah 3:28 (Al-Imran):
"Let the believers (Muslims) not take the adherents of a different religion as helpers instead of the believers (of islam). And whoever does that has nothing to do with Allah."

>>104097
1. You're just defining culture in some bullshit arbitrary manner
2. Good
3. Plenty of miracles happened in the Quran, I recall Jesus once making a living dove from clay
4. God is omnipotent, yes. Do you actually believe in some dark lord that God struggles against? Dualistic, polytheistic nonsense

>>104108
1. I know Islam very well. Muslims are forbidden to make sculptures, buy and keep paintings at home, paint portraits, learn to sing, play musical instruments. Female singing is prohibited for men, songs with foul language are prohibited, songs praising pseudo-sin, such as sacrifices to Allah on a stone altar, are prohibited. These shitty prohibitions of the Arab savages of the sect of the false prophet Muhammad, oblivion to him forever, are covered by the idea of "lonely god who supposedly wants this"
3. I am not bothered by miracles that happened more than a thousand years ago. Miracles should happen in our time, at this year, to show that Allah is not dead yet.
>>102004
This is a drawing of two people with souls. It violates an Islamic taboo (called haram in Arabic)

>>104108
>God is omnipotent, yes.
This is a lie that the priests invented.
People of ancient society had a hierarchy of an Arab leader at the head of an Arab tribe, and stupidly copied this model of society to the Universe. In fact, on this planet Earth there has never been only one state ruled by a leader, there have always been, in fact, and will be many states ruled in different ways, by different people.

>>104108
The only cultural things that Muslims have are culinary styles and camel racing, but every tribe in the universe has culinary styles, because without food, people cannot sustain life.

>>102004
"There will be people among my ummah who will consider adultery, silk, wine and musical instruments permissible" (al-Bukhari, 5590).

Why did the false islamic prophet Muhammad, oblivion to him, ethernal damnation to him, fuckingly dislikes silk? What was wrong with silk?

in the remnants of Islam that remained after the Islamic false prophet Muhammad, oblivion to him, there are only three good things: polygamy and the prohibition of drinking alcohol, and another third good thing that is not directly mentioned in the Quran, oblivion to him, and not mentioned in the hadith, oblivion to them, the prohibition of tobacco.

>>104122
and the fourth good advice is to ban games with money bets

The Quran and the Sunnah emphasize that everything in the Universe happens according to the will of Allah, including good and evil. The fact that someone wished harm to the false prophet of Islam Muhammad, means that Allah is displeased with this thrall Muhammad.

and the prohibition of homosexualism was the right thing to do, only the false islamic prophet Muhammad had nothing to do with it, this prohibition was created before his birth.

>>102004
Why do Muslims get so upset and angry when someone burns the Koran? The Islamic false prophet Muhammad, oblivion to him, did this all his life! He burned or otherwise destroyed all the scripture of the Islamic prophets of Allah that were written earlier, and lied and attached the books of the prophets of Judaism, supposedly as Islamic.

>>102004
Why should a Muslim woman call upon Allah during difficult childbirth? Does Allah have a vagina, a uterus to help?

>>104108
>4. God is omnipotent, yes. Do you actually believe in some dark lord that God struggles against? Dualistic, polytheistic nonsense

I believe in chaos as the opposite of god. Chaos will be when the sun explodes and this planet earth turns to dust. Chaos is the opposite of creation.

By the way, about the omnipotence of Allah. Allah's omnipotence is compensated by His laziness and unwillingness to do anything.

>>102004
>>Do you actually believe in some dark lord >>that God struggles against? Dualistic, >>polytheistic nonsense

Allah is a sly and liar, that's why he lies that he is the only one, that he is lonely, and he secretly fights against all other religions, no matter how many gods and goddesses there are, whether they are polytheistic, monotheistic or some other, it doesn't matter to him, Allah is playing a game about power. If Allah manages to capture the entire planet Earth with Islam, it will not be the end of the game, then the game will move on to other inhabited planets, there will be jihad of Earthlings against infidels from other planets, and there are almost all infidels.

By the way, if you believe that both order and chaos, creation and destruction, both good and evil, both immutability and change, oddities and ordinariness come from one source Allah, it means that your Allah is schizophrenic. Because Allah can either be on the side of the fisherman who wants to catch a fish, or on the side of the fish who wants the fisherman to die of hunger. Allah cannot be on both sides at the same time, for the fisherman and for the fish at the same time.

>>Daily reminder that christians and muslims get along.
This is an old trick of Islam, everyone knows it. Muslim men want to marry Christian women, so that all children from this marriage can be automatically declared Muslims men and Muslim women.

>>102004
>>God is omnipotent, yes. Do you actually >>believe in some dark lord that God struggles >>against?
Since Allah combines both good and evil, he is not God, but rather the Devilogod. By the way, what makes you think that the Devilogod (Allah) will give you the boon you're asking Them for? He does not have a good nature inside, he is not obligated to do good to you in response to your beggar's prayer.
The ideology of Islam, one god, one tribe, one state, one hereditary dictator, is old, very old, and designed for stupid people who can't remember more than one name.

>>102004
It is very good that the ideology of Islam does not consider Allah to be humanoid, blessed be his horns, tails and mandibles, this means that Allah will not necessarily support the hairless semi-apes of planet Earth, who were created a long time ago, soon will be time to replace them with other intelligent beings, more worthy of this planet

>>102004
>>Do you actually believe in some dark lord >>that Allah struggles against?

To defeat Allah, it is not necessary to have another paranormal being. Politically, there is nothing difficult for a king or dictator to apply mirror measures. Does Islam prohibit the construction of temples of other religions? It does. Does Islam oblige non-believers to pay jizya (Arabic: ) according to Sharia? It does. Does Islam prohibit proselytism? It does. Politically, it is easy and reasonable to apply mirror counter-measures to these ethnic Arab monotheistic pagans: prohibit the construction of mosques, force all Muslims to pay anti-jizya, prohibit proselytism of Islam. People's religions come and gone, and with the Quran, oblivion to it, will be the same, The time will come when the Quran will disappear, and Allah will be remembered as often as Baal..

>>104117
>I know Islam very well. Muslims are forbidden to make sculptures, buy and keep paintings at home, paint portraits, learn to sing, play musical instruments
Idolatry and music is not the entirety of culture

>>104118
>This is a lie that the priests invented
False. There is an omnipotent, omniscient, sentient heartmind at the core of the universe

>>104124
>The Quran and the Sunnah emphasize that everything in the Universe happens according to the will of Allah, including good and evil
The all-powerful Prime Mover is the direct cause of everything, yes

>>104129
Order and chaos are just perspectives that change at scope

>Allah cannot be on both sides at the same time, for the fisherman and for the fish at the same time
You have some weird view of God as a man in the clouds. He's more like the code of a video game than an individual person. In a video game both the fisherman and the fish are composed of code, created by the same database, animated and sustained by it, etc.

>>104132
God is the source of good and evil, yes. Obviously God is not only good or the universe would be a far nicer place than it is

I'm not a Muslim for the record, just a monotheist

>>104138
>>There is an omnipotent, omniscient, sentient >>heartmind at the core of the universe
the priests of Baal said the same thing, and where is their religion now?
You have no proof.
>>Idolatry
only an Arab idiot does not distinguish between a painting that decorates a house and creates a mood, and an icon for religious worship.

>>104138
>>God is the source of good and evil, yes.
>>I'm not a Muslim for the record, just a >>monotheist
So you consider a powerful being who causes boon, and a powerful being who causes vices, illnesses, early death, suffering, to be the same person?
You just said that the Pope and Jack the Ripper are one person.
Congratulations, you are a monotheist who believes in the Devilogod.

>>104138
Monotheism was an decrepit ideology. One hereditary dictator, one nation, one country, one religion, and all foreign religions, no matter monotheistic or polytheistic or any other, are declared enemies. Monotheism arose by the political will of hereditary dictators, they were not at all interested in whether a super-intelligent being is lonely alone, without a superwife, when there is no one to talk to, when there is no one who even reaches 70% of your level

Here is a cultural object that Muslims will never have.

>islam was fabricated between muhammad and his jewish backers
>nothing about islam is abrahamic, at no point in time was abaraham ever anywhere near mecca
>allah is not yahweh is not "the one true god"
<christianity took advantage of pagan secularism to infest rome and burn out paganism from the inside from everywhere it takes hold
<this created a belief system of slaves that ended up turning the other cheek to their own genocide by allowing subhuman shitskins under the guise if "we're all the same" and "we can fix them"
<jews are all soulless vampires and deserve to be killed

>>104149
>You have no proof
I'm not trying to prove anything. If you care about the truth then seek it for yourself

>only an Arab idiot does not distinguish between a painting that decorates a house and creates a mood, and an icon for religious worship
There's plenty of Muslim art out there, just none of Mohammed, Allah or various other figures they esteem. You're correct though that some take the definition of idolatry too far, similar to you making the definition of culture very shallow

>>104150
>So you consider a powerful being who causes boon, and a powerful being who causes vices, illnesses, early death, suffering, to be the same person?
God is the one and only actor. Not a blade of grass moves without his will

Do you actually believe that God is only good?

>>104151
>Monotheism arose by the political will of hereditary dictators
You speak only of Abrahamic monotheism. Atenism, Neoplatonism and Hinduism are all monotheistic and fit none of your political criteria

>>104160
>>Do you actually believe that God is only good?
No. I believe that God can do both good and evil, but for the most part his heart is good, and therefore he does good more often.

The idea of monotheism is the idea of slavery of humanity of planet Earth. The meaning of monotheism is that under the sauce of one god - one religion, to cause harm to humanity of planet Earth, for example, in the case of Islam, to prohibit playing the saxophone.

Why don't monotheists believe in Evil One and Chaos? There are serial killers in the world, why is it so hard for monotheists to imagine that there could be serial killers beyond the human boundaries of possibility? Just supernatural beings who like to kill all life on planet Earth.
As for Chaos..... we, humanity, live in a created world, on a created planet, in a solar system, and chaos can and probably wants to cancel creation, turn back, return everything to its original state, to chaos, and even supernatural serial killers do not want this.
The world is much more complex than monotheists believe.

>>104187
>therefore he does good more often

>>all of life consumes and murders one another
>>world is completely controlled by evil
>>all politicians are child-fucking satantic pedophiles
>>the world is filled with horrendous unspeakable evil

If God is mostly good why doesn't he prevent baby rape?

The problem of monotheism No. 1.
Islam and Judaism do not have images of God. I don't know much about mototheistic folk, which believes in the monotheistic God Aton, however. Maybe he has images. Question. Why should the God without an image, end even without a name, have warm feelings for humanity on planet Earth? He might not even look like a humanoid. But I agree, for stupid people to see a statuette of the God who looks like a human is a test, how so! The God is like a human!. Stupid people don't like it. It doesn't look wonderful enough in the opinion of stupid people.
Problem of Monotheism #2
Who is it interesting for the monotheistic God to talk to? Humans? Thralls, stupid creatures, uninteresting. Angels, archangels, cherubs, seraphim? Servants, they do not possess even 20% of the intellect of God.
If God has no one to talk to at his level, or at least 70% of his level, it is boring to Him, He Himself can become stupid from long time in silence and you know, eternity is more than a human person can imagine for himself. Therefore, it is logical for a monotheistic God to create a divine girlfriend for himself, may be in a secret from humanity or not in a secret.
The problem of monotheism No. 3
People who worship the monotheistic God believe in Him and they believe that He is sane. But you know, loneliness of monotheism, loneliness in eternity can easily drive even the God crazy. Why don't monotheists want to believe in a crazy god? Can't a supernatural, omnipotent, omniscient divine being go crazy? By definition of omnipotence, He can go crazy, because that's part of omnipotence.
Problem of Monotheism #4
If in two hours and seven minutes a black hole opens near planet Earth and sucks in planet Earth and humanity of planet Earth, what will be the last thing monotheists will think? Will they believe that their monotheistic God, in whom they believe, did this? Or will they still think in the last minutes of their miserable lives that monotheism was probably a trick of priests, it was just invented to worry people less, but in reality Universe is more complex, and there is an Evil One, an enemy of God who is devouring planet Earth and humanity today.

>>104190
>If God is mostly good why doesn't he prevent baby rape?

Maybe this is a punishment for her soul for her mistakes from her past life. Or maybe she just fell into the hands of dark forces of evil.
Do you have an alternative? Is there someone better? if you want, don't believe in Gods, if you like it. But it won't reduce the problems in life, and the life of any mortal living being is walking along a road on which obstacles are regularly encountered, problems that must be overcome. God with a name is only a good force that can help on occasion, and not a plug for every barrel

>>104192
If God can prevent baby rape but chooses not to, then he is evil. It's that simple
>but uh maybe it's a punishment from a past life
Irrelevant to this life. The memories are not retained, a lesson is not learned. It's pointless horrendous evil

>christians and muslims get along.
Islam was founded 1400 years ago. 1300 years ago sandniggers made their first attempts to conquer Christendom and they have been at it consistently and incessantly ever since.

cross? crescent? what's the difference?

why can't we just all agree to hate jews?

>>104200
in the ancient state there were often several faiths for different social strata. For example, it is not profitable for peasants to have the faith of warriors, then they begin to pump their rights and rebel, it is better for peasants to be concerned about their sinfulness and let them consider all their troubles to be the cause of their sins. Judaism and Christianity are two parts of one faith. Christianity is the sword of Judaism. This sword destroyed more than a hundred other religions, and mainly prevented sacrifices, for example through burnt sheep offerings, and without them the connection with any God is weakened.
>>cross? crescent? what's the difference?
Both are lying, because a skeleton in a grave will not grow flesh, will not crawl out of the grave, will not become a living person again. There will be no resurrection from the dead. And Jesus Christ, the son of Jehovah, will never return to planet Earth.

>>104195
>If God can prevent baby rape but chooses not to, then he is evil. It's that simple

What if the soul in this raped girl was a nun in her last two lives, consciously avoiding childbirth? Should she be patted on the head and rewarded for the fact that the followers of other gods and goddesses are multiplying, but this incarnate soul refuses to bear children?

If God drives out God, how will his kingdom stand?

>>104206
Correct

>>104207
>What if the soul in this raped girl was a nun in her last two lives, consciously avoiding childbirth?
Fruitless conjecture. It's impossible to know such information and the rape victim herself will certainly never know. Multiple life karma is pointless torture

Saying that maybe someone did evil in a past life is a flimsy excuse for evil

Getting hurt without understanding the reasons for it is also senseless torture.

Christianism and Islamism contain the idea of karma of several lives. After the resurrection from the dead, the last judgment, and a second life based on the karma of the first life.

>>104209
>>Saying that maybe someone did evil in a >>past life is a flimsy excuse for evil

Evil happens simply because it wants to, and religious ideas do not matter, Evil is one of the primeval forces of the universe. It's just that the latest versions of monotheism, Judaism, Islamism, have been censored for millennia, they are pacifist now, so as to worry believers less, unlike the earlier versions ot them.