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I don't get it.

>>104385
It's just glownibba astroturfing. The current controlled opposition figurehead is shilling for the governor of California

I heard avid put a labubu up his bumhole

>>104571
I swear some nigga stole my flashlight. OLIGHT WARRIORX4. A high powered flashlight (range like 600m or something), it was cool as fuark. I was using it because we don't have easy access to guns in this shitty country. I'll prolly buy another one, been checking out their smaller ones, one could carry in my pocket easily.

F--ntes is the most obvious f-d I've ever seen. He's literally on film at the January 6th event encouraging his followers to raid the capital. They got arrested, imprisoned and tortured, but he himself never had any consequences whatsoever

They're getting random celebrities to namedrop this random irrelevant glowie so that retards will look him up and follow him. The fucking Luke Skywalker actor mentioned him. It's all extremely fake and retards fall for it

*Protip: if they actually hate something they NEVER speak about it so that it doesn't gain power or inspire copycats*

>>104623
Good thing is he already showed himself to be an anti-nationalist (civnat is a nonsensical term) christcuck faggot who just seems edgy because he repeats posts about jews he saw on 4chan. All you can do is hope any prospective WN young men he leads astray will eventually stop falling for the autistic gay wetback astroturf and find their way into ethnonationalist (which is a redundant term) circles because some are such retarded DEUS VULT morons themselves that they have infinite reassurance in their nonwhite manlet.

>>104635
How is civic nationalism nonsensical? It's just sorting humans by a different metric. For example a civnat nation might only allow 130+ IQ to be citizens

>>104636
>c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.
A nation is necessarily a group of common ancestry, not directly of shared values (though shared values exist because culture is derivative of race). The term "civic nationalism" is backwards at best and contradictory at worst in that sense.

>>104638
This definition of "nation" is merely an illusion of scope. I could use it to say anyone outside of my immediate family is not of my nation. A German can deny a Dutchman of being the same nation, etc.

If humanity reaches the stars alien lifeforms might consider all humans one race given that they have common ancestry. It's all entirely dependent on scope

Such a definition of nation is shallow and illusory. I am white but I don't consider vaxxoid mcdonalds eaters to be the same nation as me. How absurd. The color of one's soul unironically matters more. Poisoned domesticated livestock are not my volk

>>104639
It's not an illusion when nations clearly have experienced wildly varying degrees of success throughout history and it's ridiculous to reduce it down to a minute level since that isn't how it's been measured. Nationality being divorced from ethnicity is pure jewish semantic stupidity. A nigger born within England doesn't suddenly have English ancestry and will perform more similarly to one of its own that came from abroad than to a true English kid.

It's funny you consider nation as defined by genetics to be shallow when such setups will certainly prove to endure far longer than these democratic "nations", which are soon to disappear in their mere infancy. Julio in America and Achmed in England certainly won't be carrying the torch for liberalism. Such people are more likely to be your "vaxxoid mcdonalds eaters" than Whites are, anyway. And I could give a rat's ass about what nuance regarding human history hypothetical aliens might lack.

>>104640
Even within relatively small islands like Britain there are countless different genetic groups though. Brythonic Celts, Picts, Romans, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Normans, etc.

Not to mention these themselves are formed of varying degrees of countless former nations that no longer exist. The main three that formed Europe being paleolithic western hunter gatherers, neolithic Anatolian farmers that brought agriculture with them and then finally Eurasian steppe-herders (Yamnaya) that invaded in the Bronze Age where they genocided most men, destroyed all cultures and languages, and raped all the women

I'm actually majority old European DNA by far, mostly WHG with barely any steppe-herder invader DNA. Most Europeans on the other hand are majority steppe-invader-rapist DNA

We are not the same. Go back to Asia r1b nigger

>>104643
Didn't say everyone on the Isles or elsewhere in Europe is one uniform group (and there have obviously been historically nonwhite populations even in Europe such as the Roma and Turkics), but the distinction of a White race exists both with intimate cultural and genetic similarities shared among the myriad populations. There's really nothing abstract about the distinction. Danes and other Germanics swimming over the channel is a far cry from shitskins being imported over thousands of miles.

It makes no sense to align with such "people" "spiritually" over your neighbor, your fellow [ethnic] countryman or even a person from a neighboring White nation. What's happening now isn't comparable to ancient migrations. There isn't a gradual synthesis of culture and genes happening, but an abrupt replacement of Whites altogether. They're dumb brutes worse than any viking ever was.

>>104648
>the distinction of a White race exists both with intimate cultural and genetic similarities shared among the myriad populations
No, there's a gradient of landraces across Europe that blends in seamlessly towards all other landmasses. An Italian and Norwegian look very differently though they share some genetics. In extreme southern Europe they have Arab DNA. In southeastern Europe they have Turkic DNA, etc. Turkic rapists spread their genes into Europe just as your Aryan rapist forefathers spread their seed into indigenous European women

>It makes no sense to align with such "people" "spiritually" over your neighbor, your fellow [ethnic] countryman or even a person from a neighboring White nation
Domesticated GMO livestock are not my countrymen. Even the darkest bantu voodoo nigger is of superior genetic quality if he resisted the coercion to inject genetic poison

Just as now Brythonic and Anglo Britons identify with one another, so too has this age changed standards of human identification

The soul matters more than the flesh

>>104651
Deport yourself to Africa and suck niggers dicks every day for a based, balanced diet then you fucking moron

>>104651
A nuanced argument like this is going to go way over the head of a retarded stormnigger. The idea of a "white" and "black" race is part of American culture and most Americans can't think outside of that framework, least of all someone who has built his entire identity around trying to siphon the valour of his supposed race-brothers.

>>104651
Again, this isn't news. Ironically, the genes of the forebears you're choosing to identify more strongly with live on within the descendants of "steppe-herder rapists" as do those of theirs within you to some extent by your own admission. Now consider the genetic distance between any European population and any Sub-Saharan African one. If we were to honestly categorize humanity by the same taxonomic standards as we do all other species, there would be several distinct subspecies of human, of which you and most of those who lean more into the "steppe-herder rapist" ancestry would likely still be lumped together with. That is how closely related White Europeans are to one another.

>The soul matters more than the flesh
The soul is more nebulous a concept than genetics has ever been. It seems only humans (only a subsect at that) suppress what is understood instinctually by the rest of life. Valuing niggers over Whites all because they haven't been subjected to the same torrent of atomizing propaganda or because your distant ancestors were raped by other Whites seems like cutting your nose off to spite your face, which isn't a great deal above Whites who fell for the vaccine mystery juice morally. In the end, they're both toleration of blatant assault on the White genome.

Understand, semitic occupation of European government is doing damage to European populations in a century what Europeans couldn't have hoped to inflict upon one another in thousands of years. Whatever heritage of yours which yet lingers likely won't even exist into the next century in any residual form if the replacement trend continues. Spearchuckers and desert rapists will not split hairs and give you a pass. To them, you're no different from the average Englishman.

>>104653
What's nuanced about race denialism? It's the most shabbos belief there is.

>>104656
>If we were to honestly categorize humanity by the same taxonomic standards as we do all other species, there would be several distinct subspecies of human
I'm aware

>of which you and most of those who lean more into the "steppe-herder rapist" ancestry would likely still be lumped together with.
It's a line that flows seamlessly into other lines and clusters. Humans always mix when they encounter one another regardless of genetic background. This is why humans are termed race, which is short for landrace

>It seems only humans (only a subsect at that) suppress what is understood instinctually by the rest of life. Valuing niggers over Whites all because they haven't been subjected to the same torrent of atomizing propaganda or because your distant ancestors were raped by other Whites
The spectrum of value I'm presenting is simply non-racial. A black that sells crack is of more value than a tax paying white because the black isn't directly funding the forces of evil. A willing servant of evil is also evil. Those who pay and labor for their own genocide are truly mindless beasts we are better off without

>Whatever heritage of yours which yet lingers likely won't even exist into the next century in any residual form if the replacement trend continues
Life is a jungle. The strong live and the weak perish. This is simply natural selection. It's like the hammer of a blacksmith pounding out impurities

>>104656
>What's nuanced about race denialism?
No one in here has denied race. I think this conversation is going over your head

>>104657
>Humans always mix when they encounter one another regardless of genetic background.
The English were quite conscientious not to mix with the natives of the New World. Blame the dagos for that one. Rhodesia and South Africa strongly discouraged miscegenation as well.

>A black that sells crack is of more value than a tax paying white because the black isn't directly funding the forces of evil.
Observing rule of law and paying tax doesn't make a White person evil. They don't have any agency regarding what "their" representatives put that money toward and there won't be any collective tax protest (and it's naive to consider that a viable possibility when Whites have been conditioned specifically to keep their heads down). Niggers selling drugs comes at great cost to the well-being of their own communities.

>This is simply natural selection
There is nothing natural about modern society. All major media platforms are explicitly anti-White and infinite money is funneled into them to sow guilt among Whites and into suppressing the free flow of information too.

>No one in here has denied race. I think this conversation is going over your head
>The idea of a "white" and "black" race is part of American culture and most Americans can't think outside of that framework, least of all someone who has built his entire identity around trying to siphon the valour of his supposed race-brothers.
This is de facto race denialism no matter how you slice it. On the contrary, nothing I ever said implied that all White populations are perfect 1:1 clones of each other. It's funny, too, because it's projection in its own way to believe all White Americans think White is some goo-blob racial identity of total homogeneity when there are plenty of insulated White subgroups scattered across America (whose landmass is nearly identical in size to Europe as a whole) which anyone who isn't a retarded shitskin recognizes.

>>104660
>The English were quite conscientious not to mix with the natives of the New World
I am literally an English native mix because my English ancestors were fucking the new worlders

>Observing rule of law and paying tax doesn't make a White person evil
When the law is evil supporting that law is evil. As one of the founding fathers said "when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty"

>There is nothing natural about modern society. All major media platforms are explicitly anti-White and infinite money is funneled into them to sow guilt among Whites and into suppressing the free flow of information too
This is a eugenic process that only the toughest will make it through. Right now the majority of whites are brainwashed slaves unworthy of saving

Just yesterday, in the same day you accuse me of race denialism, I had a dutchman call me a racist for distinguishing native dutch from immigrants. This guy is in his ancestral homeland going extinct and calling anyone who notices this fact a racist. Truly such people are unworthy of saving and they're the majority

>The idea of a "white" and "black" race is part of American culture and most Americans can't think outside of that framework, least of all someone who has built his entire identity around trying to siphon the valour of his supposed race-brothers.
>This is de facto race denialism no matter how you slice it
Labels of white and black are illusions that may or may not be useful. There's more genetic diversity in sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the planet, so the concept of a black race is truly absurd. Khoisan, Pygmies, Bantu, Eritrean, etc. are all highly distinct from one another, infinitely moreso than an Italian and Norwegian

Illusions are useful if they improve our lives. Nationhood is an illusion. At one point all of humanity lived in small tribes of 50-200 members. As the world population expanded so so did the notion of nation. Brythonic Britons, Anglos, Jutes, Saxons, etc. all see themselves as one nation now despite their ancestors being deeply hated blood enemies

However there are many harmful variants of this illusion of nationhood. Civic nationalism with zero standards is harmful. Mindless tribalism in which one thinks all who superficially resemble them are tribe members is harmful

In this day and age the greatest enemy of whites is other whites

California is so fucked up in every single fucking metric and everybody on knows it; do they really think they can insincerely meme this retard into the presidency or whatever? heh

>>104667
depends how bad the jewconomy gets

>>104666
>I am literally an English native mix because my English ancestors were fucking the new worlders
angloids are the jews of jewrope

>>104666
>I am literally an English native mix because my English ancestors were fucking the new worlders
Then you aren't White to begin with and you're also an outlier in that regard. There aren't numbers of featherhead mixes remotely comparable to the dago mutt swarm in Latin America. Natives were forcibly kept segregated for the most part.

>When the law is evil supporting that law is evil. As one of the founding fathers said "when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty"
They had no clue what sort of technology would become available in the future. Even the nice stuff the average person can acquire in America are peashooters compared to military hardware. Europe is even worse off. With the unprecedented level of surveillance of today, I bet even mentioning something like the Anarchist's Cookbook in passing gets you elevated to finer monitoring.

>Labels of white and black are illusions
This is race denialism.

>There's more genetic diversity in sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the planet
Sub-Saharan Africa is significantly larger than America and Europe combined. That's to be expected.

>As the world population expanded so so did the notion of nation. Brythonic Britons, Anglos, Jutes, Saxons, etc. all see themselves as one nation now despite their ancestors being deeply hated blood enemies
Not quite. These groups largely mixed. At the same time, the Isles can be seen as a collective of nations. English, Irish, Scots and Welsh have distinct identities from one another.

>Mindless tribalism in which one thinks all who superficially resemble them are tribe members is harmful
This is the default state. Mimicry only works so well because the semitic parasite fully controls the narrative. Even when they mix with the population they are trying to subjugate, their foreign features are noticeable.

>In this day and age the greatest enemy of whites is other whites
Most Whites alive right now have been wracked with self-loathing since birth due to increasingly aggressive semitic programming and they had little recourse to resist because all major channels of public discourse work in tandem to maintain a tight narrative even if they pretend to be at each others' throats. The greatest enemy of Whites in all history is the jew.

>>104669
>Then you aren't White to begin with and you're also an outlier in that regard
I am white and native. The 1 drop rule is bullshit. Also there are a grand total of 0 pure natives left in America because they're all mixed with Anglos

>>Labels of white and black are illusions
>This is race denialism
No, it's blanket term rejection

>>There's more genetic diversity in sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the planet
>Sub-Saharan Africa is significantly larger than America and Europe combined. That's to be expected.
You're contradicting yourself. You both-
1. Recognize the genetic diversity of sub-Saharan Africa (which is again, greater than the entire rest of the planet), and
2. You say to reject the label of black is race denialism

Does the black race exist or not?

>These groups largely mixed. At the same time, the Isles can be seen as a collective of nations. English, Irish, Scots and Welsh have distinct identities from one another
I wasn't talking about any of those groups, it's disingenuous for you to change the topic to them. I specifically mentioned Brythonic Britons, Anglos, Jutes, and Saxons. All of which are completely mixed now with zero differentiating factors noticable by 99.9% of the population. All of these different nations are now one nation

>The greatest enemy of Whites in all history is the j*w
The traitor that lets the enemy through the gates is a worse enemy than the enemy outside the gates

>>104670
>The 1 drop rule is bullshit.
Then how much are you? Because 1/64 like Elizabeth Warren (if she's even that) isn't considered being native. If you're 20%, that's close to being a castizo but without the lesser dago mix.

>Also there are a grand total of 0 pure natives left in America because they're all mixed with Anglos
Natives constantly gatekeep about this because so many Whites fetishize being a negligible part native (again, if they even are at all) to feel special. Tribal organizations handle verification themselves and getting certified requires a significant amount of native ancestry. Around less than 1% of Americans are verified to be native by any of these organizations, though significantly more claim ancestry. It shouldn't have to be said that I believe there was non-zero mixing, but that the English policy on natives was in stark contrast to the dagos' and mixing was immensely discouraged. Same is true of South Africa. There was some mixing, but it was actively discouraged.

>No, it's blanket term rejection
Semantics.

>Does the black race exist or not?
There is no contradiction. Niggers have more genetic diversity relative to Europeans and that's to be expected because they live in different conditions, chiefly that their territory is larger. That doesn't mean they don't all cluster close enough to be considered a race. They aren't unique in this regard. Other species and subspecies have been measured to express more genetic diversity than they do.

>I wasn't talking about any of those groups, it's disingenuous for you to change the topic to them
It's not disingenuous nor is it changing the topic. They are the descendants of those groups.

>All of which are completely mixed now with zero differentiating factors noticable by 99.9% of the population
The distribution in the genes of their various ancestral groups isn't uniform across the Isles and the aforementioned groups consider themselves to be their own distinct nations.

>The traitor that lets the enemy through the gates is a worse enemy than the enemy outside the gates
With the ongoing brownification, very few had a say in the matter. The right-wing in England keeps talking big on illegal immigration crackdown, but the truth is the legal immigration sanctioned unanimously by the politicians is most of the problem. The average Englishman had zero input on this issue even if they retroactively decry racism against the poor, vulnerable invaders.

>>104675
>Then how much are you? Because 1/64 like Elizabeth Warren (if she's even that) isn't considered being native. If you're 20%, that's close to being a castizo but without the lesser dago mix
I'm far closer to the latter than the former. Warren isn't even 0.0001% according to her DNA test

>so many Whites fetishize being a negligible part native (again, if they even are at all) to feel special
This is a thing. I've met many natural blondes with sky blue eyes that larp as native

>That doesn't mean they don't all cluster close enough to be considered a race
Khoi-san, Bantu, Pygmies and Eritreans don't cluster all unless it's some highly tampered DNA mapping. These groups are apples and oranges. They all have dramatically different admixture from other non-human hominid groups

>It's not disingenuous nor is it changing the topic. They are the descendants of those groups
I did not mention the Scottish at all, nor their ancestors. I mentioned specifically the various nations that composed the ancestral pools of England

>With the ongoing brownification, very few had a say in the matter
Many hundreds and thousands over the years did have a say in the matter and they all chose personal benefit over the good off their nation

>>104683
>Khoi-san, Bantu, Pygmies and Eritreans don't cluster all unless it's some highly tampered DNA mapping
Maybe I misremembered what data I saw or it was misrepresented by who I was exposed to it from or some other source of error. Maybe there are a few distinct races across sub-Saharan Africa. I won't have a good chance to look back into it tonight, anyway (doesn't mean I won't check for a response later, or follow up with re-confirmation or contention to this particular topic later). I'll concede this point for now. On the other hand, are the migrants invading not descended chiefly from or virtually only Bantu populations?

>I did not mention the Scottish at all, nor their ancestors. I mentioned specifically the various nations that composed the ancestral pools of England
There is some mixing in other regions of the Isles with the ancestral groups you mentioned, so that's why I mentioned the modern nationalities. You can certainly find Anglo-Saxon genes across the rest of the Isles. It wasn't meant as a deflection or anything.

>Many hundreds and thousands over the years did have a say in the matter and they all chose personal benefit over the good off their nation
Hundreds and thousands is very few in the grand scheme. The nobility (politicians from yesteryear) of Europe sold out its own populations for riches and forcibly propagated semitism across the land centuries ago. Again, it was never the common White man's will to worship jews or enable shitskin invasion. Yes, the commonfolk go along with it to safeguard their livelihoods after it becomes law, but that's how it's always been.

Meant to include this in a previous post, but that same desire to possess indigenous blood exists in Australia as well. It's funny to see Australians with fully British features talk about how they're in touch with the Dreamtime and love walkabouts or whatever because supposedly one of their more recent ancestors shacked up with one of the aboriginal ewok-nigger hybrids. I don't know anything about the verification programs for aboriginal ancestry there, though. Just going by looks (though not like English are known for their looks anyway).

>>104675
>getting certified requires a significant amount of native ancestry.
not usually, every tribe is different but those with blood quotients are often low (like1/8 or 1/16) and most don't use blood tests either- one bastard great grandfather who was "pure" on paper could get you in

the Cherokee don't even have a blood quotient so anyone that can trace an unbroken line of women back to the Dawes Rolls is in leading to some of their members being 0.1% Amerind on blood tests

Injuns are less racially coherent than Jews

>>104666 (hi, satan)
>Labels of white and black are illusions that may or may not be useful. There's more genetic diversity in sub-Saharan Africa than the rest of the planet
I'm open to the idea that there are 4 or 5 black races but not to the idea that any of them is human

>>104690
Many expect you to at least be a quadroon. Cherokee had Warren get tested and she basically had no native blood lol.

>>104687
>On the other hand, are the migrants invading not descended chiefly from or virtually only Bantu populations?
Migrants are typically bantu or somaloids, the latter being a bantu/arab mix to varying degrees, which is why they often have caucasoid features

>>104695
>bantu/arab mix
I guess I can see that, though hard to tell. Many Somonkeys I have dealt with in the recent past were total vantablack dumbasses. I have dealt with a couple lighter-skinned niggers from around Somalia over the years, though the men all still sounded niggered to hell and spoke just like the midnight variant (if they didn't look like it too). There was one Somalian woman wearing a burqa that I served one time and her face was decently attractive for her race I suppose, definitely heavy makeup though, but not skin so dark that it could be lightened enough with.

Anyway, Somalians generally clean their asses in the sink at certain factory work. You can figure out my general region and start boycotting products from those companies if you hadn't been boycotting all American business in general yet.

>>104693
the cherokee don't do blood tests, she did that so republicans would stop being mean

speaking of republicans— this guy is a "cherokee"

>>104700
Somaloid women can be attractive. Caucasoid features with dark skin makes them look like dark elves

>>104706
Somalians are like the african equivalent of slavic levels of sexual dimorphism. LOL

I changed "Tards" to "trads" to be less offensive

>>104706
BLEACH, WHITE-WASH, COLONIZE THE BROWNS AND REDSKINS

i got a cocktail idea

>>104973
Mint does not go with red bull

I made this thread as a joke like 3 weeks ago and you niggers are still having serious arguments under it lmao

They are shilling Christianity, especially Catholicism super hard on 4chan now

>>104977
its an opensource technology

>>104973
>>104977
I hear avid likes mint in his bumhole

>>105005
They must want to suppress something people are talking about.

>>105005
Of course (((they))) are, it is judaism for the goyim, after all. It literally instructs its adherents to worship a kike-onna-stick who tells them to be doormats who love their enemies for slapping their cheeks and walking an extra mile as ordered or else they'll burn in eternal fire as punishment.