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 No.42923

WHAT A RETARD! He thinks consciousness actually stops for any of that stuff. It never stops, it merely changes in form. Nobody has ever "experienced" (had happen to them) a true loss of consciousness. There is no proof for the existence of non-consciousness.

 No.42924

Wrong flag.

 No.42944

>>42923
How could you experience a loss of consciousness

 No.42954

>>42944
Well, if you think about for example, losing an eye or a limb, you've experienced a loss of something biological right. So I suppose when you lose consciousness slowly as you age, you're getting closer to that ideal, piece by piece.

 No.42955

>>42954
I like your explanation. Cheers m8!

 No.43002

>>42923
Sauce your skitzo as fuck theory or gtfo
>it was real in my mind

 No.43006

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Correct OP. It's by definition impossible to experience unconsciousness

100 years ago your body and mind didn't exist, yet you didn't experience oblivion. Here you are right now reading my post on 4chon

Your consciousness literally arose out of "oblivion" to post on 4chon. Your consciousness arose out of the raw elements of the universe- fact

Given the infinity of time and space, your consciousness will arise again- infinitely

Atheism is a cope, thinking that there can be an end to the cycle. Nothing ever ends

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 No.43050

>>43006
Yeah but my point was that consciousness only changes shape, we are never actually unconscious. Even if one of your relatives gets pneumonia and sedated on the special 5 pharma drugs - midazolam, fentanyl and the others, and it seems like they are unconscious, they are still actually conscious its just a really warped consciousness.

I have to admit getting knocked out is hard to explain though. I've had it happen and just remember waking up.

 No.43051

>>43050
The continuity of consciousness for the one knocked "unconscious" is never lost though. From the perspective of the Self consciousness has pure, infinite, unbroken continuity

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 No.43053

gonna be so cash to chill in a hot tub with angelic anime babes in heaven when i die, while we all point and laugh at the atheists burning like charcoal in hell down below

 No.43062

consciousness is stored in the balls XD

 No.43063

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Still have yet heard a good explanation as to how pre-birth unconsciousness is different from post-death unconsciousness. You awoke into being from pre-birth unconsciousness, why wouldn’t you do it again post-death?

 No.43065

>>43063
ummmmmmmmmm? oh i see, ur a puny level 0 soul constructed from cockroach parts. you might reincarnate as someone great someday so u can experience past life connection like me. i was jesus, alexander the great and hitler heh

 No.43068

>>43065
Yeah well I was this guy. and so we’re you

 No.43070

>>43068
YOUUUU WAAANT IT AAAAALLL BUT YOUUU CAAANT HAASAVE IIIIT

 No.43085

>>43063
Materialists really want to believe in oblivion but it's not real

 No.43086

>>43085
What do you believe happens?

 No.43101

>>43085
You died before nigga?

 No.43106

>>43085
Where was I one hundred years ago?
This body did not exist
Yet I have emerged to speak on 4chon

 No.43131

>>43106
Based mushrooms poster

 No.43140

>>43051
Continuity is not lost yes, but I still wonder what you experience when you get knocked out.

Maybe its relevant that, if humans only see in 60FPS, that means there are a lot of frames we aren't seeing - but we still think of ourselves as being conscious all the time normally. So maybe if we lose out a lot of frames from being unconscious its actually just like normal reality.

Also there are probably an infinite number of frames that exist anyway. Like for every second we are not seeing 10,000 frames - but there's probably more, maybe infinite, idk but it sounds reasonable...

 No.43571

When I go to sleep I lucid dream.

When I had surgery I was ultra-lucid and still conscious.

When I was knocked out I experienced being in my astral body and seeing my own body from third person until I got sucked back into my body by some kind of gravitational force while hearing a strange sound like in that one scene in the matrix.

I think maybe some people deny consciousness because they are themselves not conscious; they are NPCs.

I've never experienced a lapse in consciousness. When my body isn't working I'm still conscious.

 No.64285

Go up faggot

 No.64288

H'Ken H'Wheeler in fresh nu vlog rant: "Metaphysics is just another term for counterspace"

 No.64298

>>43140
You can slice the pie into as many slices as you want. It's still the same amount of pie

 No.64301

>>64298
food decays so from the time you started cutting slices to the time you finished there was a tiny ammount less of the cake

but you animefag, didnt realise this because your brain has been eaten away from watching too many shitty jap cartoons 👍

 No.64302

>>64301
Onii-chan?
Onii-chan odenshi?

 No.64364

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Orch-OR nibbas we eatin zesty tonite

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hehhh

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Hmm reading thread is gone

Finally finished this book by the smartest man in Brazil. But really I can't tell whether he is Brazilian or not. Went to a Brazilian uni and looks like it but he's based in the Netherlands somehow. His first job was in a lab so he must've had rich parents

Anyway book is really good, very dense, took about a month to read. Very convincing about idealism.

I imagine none of you will really have the time to read it unless you're already familiar with this stuff so can breeze through it.

One of the things he's suggesting is that there is no true unconscious - just like what I'm suggesting in the OP. Here he cites examples of how reductions in brain activation do not actually stop consciousness, they just alter it. Note that he changes a lot of his definitions through the book as you get into it, so you have to be generous if you read these bits (about 2/5 into the book).

I will probs move on to other subjects now, I just wanted to read something about consciousness and the hard problem etc. Very good book though 10/10 and the man seems to be becoming more important as a philosopher. Also he is active on YT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPyTgLILqA&t=620s

 No.64927

>>64464
Yeah i've cum across this dood's stuff befo' but my ADHD prevents me from skimming thru these types of books from start 2 finish hehh



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