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 No.61602

http://www.xocoatl.org/caffeine.htm

WTF this guy is saying chocolate doesn't actually contain caffeine. Did I avoid chocolate all this time for nothing? I'm really craving some ice cream thing though so I'm gonna take a risk and have this thing with cocoa butter (apparantly has no caffeine though because its been processed out or something).

 No.61603


 No.61604

>>61602
What is this schizo bullshit website lmao

 No.61608

Why have you decided to quit caffeine? I've been thinking about quitting, because I believe it's causing acid reflux.

 No.61610

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>>61603
He's saying the sources are wrong. But idk how he can say that, e.g.:
>There is no scientific substantiation that Chocolate contains caffeine

But there seems to be heaps of articles that say it e.g.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27613945/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22692392/

Idk why this guy is so adamant about it.

Anyway:

>When cocoa beans are liquefied, the resulting liquid contains cocoa butter and cocoa solids.


I thought something like that was happening. So cocoa butter probs has trace amounts of caffeine. If I want zero caffeine I actually want zero, not .01mg or whatever.

>>61608
1. I wanted to see what it was like to go off. I wanted to see what my true self was, i.e. my self without caffeine. In a word I'm much calmer, more stoic, have FAR more balanced energy (I can read literally ALL day, whether its right after waking up or before going to bed, and my cognition is very very similar) and also more productive, which is its own discussion...

2. I do DXM and it doesn't mix that well with it (generally, unless you do low doses of DXM plus caffeine, which is actually very comfy and euphoric, but otherwise it becomes too stimmy). It also makes it harder to sleep which is hard enough after using DXM itself.

3. When I was tapering off (switching from e.g. 6 shots or cups of espresso a day to 2-3) I started noticing, when I would have all my caffeine after waking at 8-9-10AM, that I would get a bad withdrawl (anxiety+depression basically) around 3-4pm and on (the evening).

Probably the biggest reason I stopped is the last point, I eventually internalized the reality that "I like the high but I dislike the withdrawl even more".

There's always a risk of relapse when I read about this stuff, its just human nature to want to do stuff you read about. Having dark chocolate by itself would be interesting, I substituted some espresso for Lindt dark choc when I was tapering off, it did seem to have its own kick, probably caffeine+theobromine+some smaller amounts of other drugs.

I did notice dark choc (due to the theobromine??) was subtler and gave off more feelings off well being and was less stimmy than coffee, so he has that point going for him. Theobromine or dark choc is obviously addictive though, there is no debate there...

 No.61618

>>61610
> If I want zero caffeine I actually want zero, not .01mg or whatever.

being a bit neurotic? such trace amounts would not have any effect.

 No.61638

>>61604
No one is schizo here. You're the crazy one. We're all sane. HA HA!

 No.61643

the richly dark roasted aroma of satisfying richly fresh dark roasted coffee freshly ground freshly brewed satisfying dark aroma fresh satisfy aroma of coffee in the morning

 No.61651


 No.61931

Literal goyslop

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 No.62001

Literally ate two boxes of that shit. BAN IT NOW

 No.62002

File: 1690442617759.jpg (155.42 KB, 591x867, miki.jpg)

todays ingestion

filter coffee made with 26 grams of beans
sumatran loose leaf tea
sumatran/persian loose leaf tea
persian loose leaf tea

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 No.62021

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 No.62100

I felt to shitty to quit coffee right now. Can't do it unless I have a few days free.

 No.62105

>>62001
I...is that 1250 per serving?
(1/4)

 No.62157

>>62105
Prolly 900-1100 cals or something each box yeah heh

 No.62168

>>62157
das a lot heh

 No.62255

File: 1690617584879.png (466.8 KB, 595x842, 45910fad62fe35d80c44bd5451b….png)

drink coffee after lunch
pass out for hours

vape before sleeping, sleep well until alarm
stop vaping, wake up hours earlier than i should

dun even know anymore

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>>62344

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>>62352

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 No.62359

File: 1690659427525.jpg (55.84 KB, 1000x358, 684178561.jpg)

Why Women Crave Sugary Foods More Than Men

>cathe.com/why-women-crave-sugary-foods-more-than-men/


According to Dr. Kenneth Onyango, women have lower levels of neurotransmitters, like serotonin, that helps regulate mood and appetite, and eating more of certain foods boosts serotonin’s activity. Plus, eating sugary foods may also stimulate the release of endorphins, chemicals that produce a sense of calm and well-being. More recent studies using imaging studies suggest that women have fewer binding sites for serotonin in the brain relative to men. This finding may also explain why women are more prone to anxiety and depression and why women struggle more with emotional eating. Eating sugary foods is a way to get a serotonin boost.

Sugar and its effect on Women’s Health

>movementformodernlife.com/blog/sugar-womens-health/


Suffice to say, most women have an innately higher craving for the sweet stuff than men. Nonetheless it may come as a surprise to hear that our sugar demands have serious biological backing. Evidence suggests that:
• Elevated oestrogen levels and hormonal fluctuations throughout the month may be connected to our sugar cravings.
• Sugar raises our levels of serotonin – a neurotransmitter made in the brain responsible for regulating mood. Women naturally have lower levels of serotonin than men and are, therefore, more likely to suffer from depression and anxiety. So on a biochemical level, we would be forgiven for reaching for that afternoon hobnob.
• Women need a certain percentage of body fat (approximately 20%) in order to maintain and sustain a pregnancy to full-term.

Study: women like sweets more than men

>upi.com/Science_News/2004/09/28/53181096404991/


"Women, more than men, do tend to prefer sweetened, fattened foods like chocolate," Collins said. "This may be because their brain tells them they must eat high calorie foods so they could survive giving birth during a famine." In the U.S. study, male and female rodents ate the same amounts of a meat and potato mix. But when sweet milk was added, females ate 30 percent more.

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 No.62362

>>62359
Op is a man from australia.

 No.62375

goyslop

 No.62424

>>62100
I quit like 2-3 times before I quit for good. Prolly having like half a shot of espresso in the morning the last few weeks, and that half shot was a godsend lmao. When I gave it up totally I always felt off, very "flat" for a few days, but you get used to it, and after that your cognition and interest and zest for life comes back.

 No.62425

>>62359
Sounds like all conjecture

>>62375
Yeah I will make efforts to avoid it more. Doing keto/carnivore more heavily now. Just making sure I have a high fat/protein meal ready in the morn.

 No.62439

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last time i quit i had a low level headache for weeks

one time after a extended period of using the caffeine pills i cold turkied it like 24 hours later i felt rather ill, slow and dazed
got home and had some coffee
the relief washed over me in an awesome wave

 No.62445

>>62439
Cold turkey is too hard with most drugs I find... Taper down then finally go cold turkey

A way of doing it I like is what I can call "staircase" e.g:

1/2 shot daily for a week, then 1/3 shot daily for a week, 1/4 shot for a week, etc... It's psychologically easier than doing less every day



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