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Ah, never mind. Ladder opens at 5PM PST. Probably won't be playing tonight in that case.

>>94621
8pm EST. Fortunately I'm working at the moment to kill time.

Which table do you sit at /v/?

What level have you achieved on ladder so far? Just started a little bit ago.

I am trying to mod New Vegas to get rid of the bugs and improve it visually. I get up to here and when I click 'run on MO2' I just get a command prompt and the game doesn't start.

It's very fucking annoying. Mods that don't conflict end up conflicting as well, even though I'm doing what it's saying re: load order.

https://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/basefinish.html

I'm considering just giving up and playing through the jank.

I followed this guy's guide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCpkD1PVfYE

To get MO2 to run when NV runs (but using the latest Proton)

>>94879
>using proton

lol

>>94879
have you tried asking chatgpt and gemini this, telling it what you're doing, that you're doing it thru proton on steamos, what you've installed so far and what issue you're getting, and asking it for troubleshooting steps to try to fix it? chatgpt's a little bit smarter but has a october 2023 knowledge cut-off date whereas gemini in theory can go beyond its october 2023 cut-off day by googling outside it's dataset (tho u may have to explicitly tell it to google or check specific links). it's worth trying

>>94882
Good idea, I'll do that next.

>>94879
Are you running MO2 as administrator?

>>94906
I've done it via Winetricks, and Flatseal, so I think it does that as default?

I'm trying to do it via Bottles now and use Wabbajack to run the Viva New Vegas mods as a list.

>>94907
I have a wine trick for you. It's called installing windows.

>>94908
Bottles did not work, so I'm following a guide that says to mod the game on Windows with MO2 and transfer over the files to Proton when I'm finished so I can keep Linux cos it's so good.

I'm trans btw

>>94907
Oh you're using Linux. Good luck, buddy. There's a reason I still play games on windows. Wine is widely inconsistent, and it becomes a troubleshooting nightmare half the time.

>>94917
Oh and I suppose you can try to do things old-school and just manually move files to their location in the data folder, instead of using MO2. Which reminds me of another huge issue when it comes to using mods on Linux: Linux file names are case-sensitive, Windows file names are not. This shouldn't prevent MO2 from opening, but it causes a lot of conflicts for Bethesda games when one folder is named "meshes" and the other folder is named "Meshes" for example. You need to check every file to ensure you don't have duplicates.

I swear this guy loves to hear himself talk. Sits on the main menu blabbing on about nothing for 30 minutes (and that's after editing it down from the VOD, so imagine how much longer he just sits there huffing his own farts).

>>95095
I once left a rude comment on this guy's video and his reply was so polite that I felt bad about it. He used to be a karate teacher, so I see that he has found success in applying what he learned from dealing with children to internet retards.

Astro Bot won and there were tons of ads for upcoming games. Almost every trailer ended with nigger music. They had some zesty nigger do a live performance with 21 Pilots of some gay song from that League of Legends show on Netflix. Later on Snoop Nigg rapped about having a bag of condoms and all the old oriental men in the audience looked disgusted. They also had Statler and Waldorf puppets doing a bit for some reason. Only games that looked any good were Khazan and Split Fiction (but doesn't look as fun as It Takes Two). Elden Ring is getting another expansion.

>>95156
Making Ciri a Witcher and making her the protagonist of Witcher 4 was complete pandering. Witcher 4 is going to flop.

>>95174
CDPR caught a case of the wokies at some point, think around the time of Witcher 3.

I'm retarded. That Elden Ring expansion I mentioned is actually a standalone co-op roguelike thing. If that sounded cool, or at least didn't sound stupid enough, it won't have PVP at all. A good 85-90% of the fun in these games is the spontaneous PVP. I loved these games because they reminded me of leveling on WoW PVP servers in years past. The enemies were already fucky sometimes, but having a real bastard or two enter my world to fuck my shit up was exhilarating (besides when they were obviously hacking with flying, impossible spell spam, infinite HP, etc. of course). Invading was also fun since it was often 1v2 or 1v3 and taught you how to deal with multiple player enemies in these games. To make a game entirely devoid of the essence that defined this series is a very strange design choice to me.

https://archive.is/EaCI6

I've been trying unsuccessfully to mod Viva New Vegas on the Steam Deck for a week now and have been down every fucking Linux rabbit hole and GitHub guide there is and repeated Winetricks, Protontricks, Bottles, Mod Organiser 2, fucking Wabbajack and ssh servers transfering shit over from PC to make it work, Konsole commands, everything.

When I go to hell, I'm going to meet Stallman and ram my foot up his ass and wait for Gaben to catch the other one.

>>95249
Maybe in 2 decades the openMW team will finally have other Bethesda games running natively on Linux

Brewfest... home...

>>95249
sell ur steaming pile deck and buy an rog ally x ($1600 aud)

stalker 2 on steaming pile deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIYMzQDVfRA&t=414s

stalker 2 on rog ally x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9B0Bgaxm9s

also significantly better battery life even on "turbo mode", has 1080p 120hz screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXZvlaxv8E

can handle emulating most intensive ps3 games for 2 hours of battery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7LBYDJZa4&t=1288s

but main reason is to have windows to handle those few edge cases where linux doesn't suffice like bethesda game mods.
windows is a bit gimped on the steaming pile deck cuz amd refuses to release a windows gpu driver for it that supports video hardware acceleration (dxva),
i suspect theres a backroom deal between valve and amd

>>95256
I really want to try toying around with this myself. Every Bethesda game can be successfully loaded into OpenMW to some extent.

Being an indie dev in 2024 = asset pack flips with AI generated voices. Nigger-cattle don't get it, even a lot of game studios use a lot of pre-made assets. Even in 2009, taking a game dev class in my first year of college changed my mind about wanting to turn it into a career. It was basically a class about using Unity. We had to take C as a prerequisite and didn't use it at all for this class.

>>95249
>>95265
fallout new vegas is pretty bad

>>95274
Wild how you have the worst opinions on just about everything.

>>95256
>>95263
The thing that pisses me off is that Linuxsisters are the exact type of people that would want to mod Bethesda games and make simple, convertible modding programs/flatpaks for them but for whatever reason, aren't. Idk if it's some kind of software solidarity autism or what that they make you jump through fifty different hoops to do it only to have something not work and crash the game on startup.

>>95291
It's because making things convenient isn't necessarily their goal, and even if it were, it's hard for them to understand what it is people are even struggling with. It's why programs like blender and ublock have such a shitty UI. It makes sense to them.

>>95292
I agree, it's also needlessly circlejerky; you made mods for people to enjoy and make them annoyingly accessible unless you're using Windows. I modded the game on PC just fine, even by manually installing the files without Wabbajack.

>>95291
>Linuxsisters are the exact type of people that would want to mod Bethesda games and make simple, convertible modding programs/flatpaks for them
No they are not.

1. Gaming has always been looked down upon by the Linux community.

Here is Linus Torvalds on video saying he doesn't care about video games:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1d44psi/ive_just_this_linus_video_where_linus_basically/
He's made similar statements before about that. So has Richard Stallman. If the de facto CEO of Linux has this attitude, which of course rolls downstream, what type of community do you think Linux would have?

There's also a segment of the Linux community that does indeed game, but whenever you point out any issues with compatibility and user-friendliness they plug their ears and scream "SHUT UP, YOU'RE A M$ SHILL! SHUT UP! M$ WINDOW$ IS WORSE! TYPING IN THE TERMINAL AND HAVING TO TYPE YOUR PASSWORD FOR EVERY SINGLE THING YOU DO IS WAY MORE USER-FRIENDLY THAN CLICKING NEXT A BUNCH OF TIMES ON A GUI INSTALLER!!!! HOW MUCH DID BILL GATE$ PAY YOU?!!"
You can find those freaks on gamingonlinux.com/forum, reddit.com/r/linux_gaming, Ubuntu forums, YCombinator, Phoronix and so on.

2. I explained over here how Linux fundamentally is not designed for gaming, especially for building native ports (as opposed to relying on Wine/Proton, (which emulates the necessary parts of the APIs of Win32, Direct3D9, Direct3D11, DirectSound, XAudio2, XInput and so on, all of which by the way are STABLE unlike Linux equivalents, meaning they are unchanging and expected to continue work in future Windows versions of updates):
https://8chan.moe/v/res/1045288.html#q1048347

3. Unix was a multi-user OS created by AT&T to be sold to businesses, universities and services and was specifically designed to run on mainframe computers which cost at least tens of thousands of dollars. Mainframe is what they used to call servers. The kind of software or more commonly "scripts" that was made for Unix was seen as throwaway and not expected to last forever (in terms of compatibility based on its dependencies), in other words it's like it's always "unfinished" and expected to be broken at some point. The Linux community faithfully follows that tradition, with a "free software" ideology on top of it.

4. Commodore 64, PC-98 (Japan), AmigaOS and MS-DOS is where all the game "demoscene", game "hackers" and modders have been, and now Windows is the last remaining place for that. These are home PC-oriented operating systems in which software developers design software with user-friendliness in mind, often with a GUI installer. Unix, which Linux is a clone of, was never home PC-oriented, and it shows in the inherent design as well as the attitudes of its developers.

>>95292
To be fair, blender is actually usable now that normal people know about it. You're broadly right though, and I'm not arguing. I want to say it's just autism, but no. I think freetards/linuxsisters actually intentionally make things difficult to use.

There's two angles to this. One is financial: open source developers don't get paid for their product directly. However, they do get paid for "software support". I think the most egregious example of this is the X windows system in linux, which has an instruction manual the size of a rack of encyclopedias. It's utterly inscrutable to normal users, but the person who made it knows how it works, and can sell zir troubleshooting services. STI also ran a software support scam for tinyboard, which is a similarly terrible piece of software.

The second issue is purity seeking/exclusivity in the free software community. These people enjoy having a "secret club" and making their software more accessible would allow more people to enjoy it. Learning to use awkward, inferior programs is a sort of hazing ritual for joining the linux cult, along with ordering thigh highs and taking estrogen. If you don't agree, problem is between chair and keyboard, you're just a m$ shill, you're an phone user, etc.

>>95296
This information is almost 50 years out of date. The linux community has evolved considerably since then.

>>95298
you get what you (don't) pay for
freetards make domain specific libraries
GUI is a product on it's own
GUI is an afterthought on loonix/free software side that someone else is expected to (never) design and program

>has UPS software with the most comprehensive device support
>the only local status/control GUI is a broken featureless GTK thing someone made in an afternoon

the most innovative freetad GUI that sort of stands on it's own is some tiling window managers and weird still-user-hostile shit like vim which is an overgrown regex repl more or less

the other freetard GUI ideological cargocult in perpetual limbo of programming enthusiast retardation a copy bug for bug retarded decision for retarded decision like the chinese due to not actually knowing the product requirements or user needs of the thing they make a clone sort of (libreoffice, KDE, GIMP etc.)

something like GIMP is already outdated because separate vector and raster and even 3d editor/animator, vfx compositor with separate incompatible project formats is an outdated idea, guys you didn't need to spend 3 decades trying to copy Adobe way of separating software domains (due to buying out several different software companies)

ground for rattlecage and oblivions edge set earlier, has good dps, will probably swap out the oblivions edge at some.point for spriggans, not running trials so sets of that nature aren't needed, looking for regulus for the new life event but there are scalpers on gs

Taken from a random Steam profile:
⛧Name: Lilac (wouldn't you like to know my real one :3)
⛧Pronouns (Preferred): She/Her
⛧Age: 19
⛧Weight: Chubby
⛧Sexuality: Pan.
⛧Nationality: Irish-American
⛧Usual Mood: Hypersexual/Flirty
⛧Gender: Male (Femboy)
⛧Religion: Satanist (LaVeyan)
⛧OC Species: Floran (From the game Starbound)
⛧OC Gender: Intersex
⛧OC Age: 24

>>95646
put your trip back on fagtasm

>>95651
Not your boyfriend, retard. "Rent free", as your kind likes to say.

>>95656
Manifesting and projection aren't going to increase your dating pool, retard. Stop derailing everything to whine about one of the several dozen boogeymen you cycle between obsessing over. It's extremely fucking autistic and pathetic.

>>95646
Preference: black men
Real name: avid
Haunt: 4chon.me/lounge

>>95657
shut up retard, you bring me up more than i bring you up.
>>95674
you have the mental maturity of a 10 year old

>>95689
Multiple people make fun of you, not my problem. Plus, I'm none of the boogeymen you've accused me of being. You're just a schizo retard projecting all your faggotry onto others, which is probably a big reason as to why you get shit on by multiple posters constantly. You have zero self-awareness to realize this due to severe autism.

Artsy walking simulator. Only a few hours of "gameplay", but it's free on Steam. Some parts are really trippy, so might be fun if you're really high on psychedelics or dissociatives. Worth a playthrough.

>>95695
>implying I care about other people

projection

>>95728
absolute garbage

>>95728
Cool heh