No.111133[Reply]
No, I don't mean the band, but enlightenment.
>fedoralords rejoice, for Buddhism is not a religion: you're SUPPOSED to doubt, question, debate what the Buddha and the Ariyas taught, for that is the only way one gains wisdom beyond book knowledge>understanding that life is stupid and pointless, again a perfect fit for edgy atheists>not addicted to sense-pleasures anymore because you realize it's never worth it because you'll always lose what you like and get what you don't want, including your life, and probably suffer tremendously from the consequences of your actions after all that bad karma ("karma" is but the law of cause-and-effect: simply the bed you made after committing immoral acts with hate, greed, and/or ignorance) accrued by pursuing but a drop of fleeting joy>along the way towards achieving enlightenment: living a simple, moral life feels good, man; one must at least obey the conventional five precepts of not killing, stealing, lying, engaging in sexual misconduct, or using excessive amounts of alcohol and other addictions (like doomscrolling and vidya all day erry day) to chill out long enough to strive towards uprooting hate, greed, and ignorance>you CAN meditate in a way that you "feel" a taste of Nirvana even in this very life by temporarily suppressing the five hindrances that keep your mind perpetually agitated ("the eyes are fire, the ears are fire..."); we who are inept worldly beings are stressed out ALL THE TIME but we don't know better until a Buddha arises to tell us how to quit it because that's the only thing we've ever experienced, think of Nirvana as the relief after having an endless traumatic headache your entire life, nothing esoteric about it>eventual ego death at the fourth and final stage: you will be nothing and be happy, a "happiness" of total cooling down from the agitation caused by craving and karmic consequences that is only achievable by total erasure the of hate, greed, and ignorance that keep you trapped by thirst for fruitless funAnd all you gotta do is comprehend, even a tiny bit, the three characteristics of the world: anicca, dukkha, anatta. And no, anicca does NOT mean impermanence, dukkha means a lot more than mere pain and sorrow as we know it, and anatta does NOT mean no-self. And Nirvana isn't s
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. No.111267
>>111256All of these Pali words are completely unnecessary. They make your chart unreadable
Friendly reminder that no one in the history of the world ever spoke Pali. Even most (all?) Theravadin monks couldn't read it until western linguists taught them how
>Theravadins spent more than 1000 years illiterate, not meditating because they forgot how, and merely chanting lines in a language they could't understanding because they think it's magic>this is why Mahayanists called them "hearers" ie shravakas in their own texts, because all they evet did was chant and hear magic words from the Pali Canon No.111727
"Whenever you want to do an act with speech, you should reflect on it: 'These words I want to speakâwould they lead to self-harm, to the affliction of others, or to both? Would it be unskillful speech, with painful consequences, hurtful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it would lead to self-harm, to the affliction of others, or to both; it would be unskillful speech with painful consequences, hurtful results, then anything you would say of that sort is absolutely unfit for you. But if on reflection you know that it would not cause affliction... it would be skillful, moral speech with pleasant consequences and happiness as its result, then anything of that sort is fit for you to say.
"While you are doing an act with speech, you should reflect on it: 'These words I am speakingâare they leading to self-harm, to the affliction of others, or to both? Is it unskillful speech, with painful consequences, hurtful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it is leading to self-harm, to affliction of others, or both... you should give it up. But if on reflection you know that it is not... you may continue speaking.
"Having done an act with speech, you should reflect on it: 'These words I have spokeâdid they lead to self-harm, to the affliction of others, or to both? Was it unskillful speech, with painful consequences, hurtful results?' If, on reflection, you know that it led to self-harm, to the affliction of others, or to both; it was unskillful speech with painful consequences and hurtful results: then you should confess it, reveal it, clarify such a deed to the Teacher or a sensible spiritual companion. Having confessed it... you should exercise restraint in the future. But if on reflection you know that it did not lead to affliction... it was skillful, moral speech with pleasant consequences and happiness as its result, then you should stay mentally refreshed & joyful, training day & night in skillful qualities."
No.111728
>>111267You can't translate most Pali terms into any other language. You don't learn Pali, you don't reach nibbana, because you miss the critical meanings that can't be translated.
No.111737
>>111728You're joking. It's all just retarded Sanskrit
>Nibbana = Nirvana>Viñññna (lol) = VijñanaIt's all like this
>>111727Pali Canon is good stuff, despite the silly language
No.111776
The following chart illustrates the problem of word-for-word translations of suttas, especially when applied to those in short utterance (uddesa) form which lead to all sorts of misunderstandings! Most of us need niddÄsa (brief descriptions) or the paáčiniddÄsa (detailed explanations) form, which require understanding many terms that cannot be translated into other languages in a single word and even a short phrase only scratches the surface -- for example, anicca as "impermanence" vs "we cannot maintain anything to our satisfaction in the long run" (na + icca or nicca; negation of icca or nicca = liking, expectation; we expect our efforts to bear fruit and get lasting happiness that way, we would like not to get diseased and would like not to die, but the Buddha told us every aspect of existence -- including "our" bodies and minds -- has the anicca nature: we suffer when we cannot get or keep what we desire and suffer when we can't stay away from what we don't want in the wrong view or mistaken belief [micchÄ diáčáčhi] that there is something, somewhere, with nicca nature) and anatta as "no-self" when (while one aspect of it is there is no unchanging, everlasting essence like a soul or atma as opposed to a given beginningless lifestream of five aggregates that keeps evolving according to the principle of cause-and-effect) it's really saying "there is no refugee anywhere in the world" and "becoming helpless in the rebirth process, especially when reborn in the four lower realms which one INEVITABLY WILL in the long run until at the very least stream-entry" (na + atta; negation of atta = beneficial, meaningful, refugee, with essence). And now you see in this self-demonstrating post why word-for-word translations keep one from NibbÄna!
