>>111275>(You) "it results in a worse society because the only good societies are selfless ones"
>(Me) "Can you provide any examples?"
>(You) "A man is miserable raising 3 kids and a wife, so he leaves them and sends 1k a month in the mail instead. The sons turn into drug-dealers and homosexuals, and the daughters turn into whores."So you don't have any societal examples then? Only fantastical hypothetical bullshit you pulled out of your ass? You yourself are the one who brought up hedonistic societies vs selfless ones
Now watch me make up a fantastical hypothetical situation where hedonism is good: two men are born into India. One man always throws his trash on the ground because that's what society does and expects, and he, lacking a self, mindlessly copies society and also litters
However his neighbor Sukdeep feels good when he cleans and he cleans up litter because it makes him feel good. In time he cleans an entire tributary of the Ganges River
Therefore selflessness is bad and hedonism is good. In fact I actually meet stupid, selfless people every day in this world that do evil precisely because they lack a self and merely mindlessly copy [evil] society
